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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 8, 2002
Time: 10:41pm
Mood: H to the OANG EtownPaki>>
"Id say gamecube is still strong, but i dont like how they are releasing 2d capcom fighters, when the controller is so lacking. But games like zelda will be cool.
PS2 will become much better, with additions of new RPGs and online. But ps2 releases more bad games than good"
First of all, the GC controller is crap for 2D fighters, but that doesn't mean shit.
Second of all, the PS2 DOES release more bad games than good, but that doesn't mean shit either.
The only things that matter are the GOOD games that come out for each system. I mean, if CvS2 sucks for the GC, don't buy it. If there are shitty games for the PS2, only buy the good ones. Who cares about the shitty games. Just look at the good ones.
Azn_PureChink>> You're 14. Shouldn't you be worshipping childish games??
BTW, I think that Sony will decimate the competition this time around, even more than they did last generation.
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Author: AsIaN_FeaR
Age: 14
Date: Sun Sep. 8, 2002
Time: 10:43pm
Mood: u http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/08/28/online.gaming
Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 1:22am
Mood: ach!
What deviljin said is very true.. look at what the general public thinks..
PS2 is the cool thing to own, no matter how good or bad the games are for it, or any other system for that matter.
If it depended on the game quality dreamcast would be running the show.
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Author: ekjl
Age: 21
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 7:48am
Mood: adsf AsIaN_FeaR: Don't you know that you never trust those kind of sources. I've heard lots of bullshit coming out of CNN the past year and that just lost their credibility as a news source for gaming. If you want a more accurate look on the situation about gaming, get magazines like EGM, or sites like Videogames.com.
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 9:15am
Mood: fdsfaf Mybalogna>> Umm...no you missed my point.
If a system has 90 bad games and 10 good games, it's better than a system that has 20 bad games and 5 good games, even though only 1/10 of its games are worth playing.
As for the DC, it's outdated in terms of technology. That's why it's gone...
The reason why PS2 is beating the competition is because it is the most reliable system out there. It took over the household name of video games from Nintendo.
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 11:49am
Mood: ach! Ah reliable to last it is Although my entire stement was not to agree with yours, zEverybody wants a PS2, Alot of people desire it because it is the "cool" thing to have. Many of your average console buyers are kids who see a game like GTA3 and decide this is the system to get regardless of what else is out there.. All of their friends have it too, so its only natural that they get it.
The Dc was overshadowed by the hype for Sonys mystery box during its lifespan, nobody even thought twice about a dreamcast because it just "wasnt cool" No matter how many orginal titles the dc had on it, no matter how many times it out did the competition, psx and ps2 stil won because of its fan base of zombies. Thats why it failed.
It is all about corperate image, if it were about power of the system wouldn xbox be in first place right now?
'i think i got your point, although your faith in sony is a bit overboard. Have you seen their plans for PS3? Aaahahahaha, idiots
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Author: RoamDog
Age: Priv
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 3:30pm
Mood: S-M-R-T "for games like capcom vs. snk2..... u think the gamecube controller would be good?"
I don't play CvS or MvC.
and people say the controllers are only crap for those games cuz everyone is used to playing them in the arcade for 5 years now.
if you were used to a gamecube controller you'd say other controllers sucked for it.
but whatever, the last 10 games I have played for console mostly sucked.
the only good games I have played for console lately were gamecube games.
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Author: Nsx_Boy
Age: 14
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 6:18pm
Mood: --> hmm...also i think the 64 from nintendo didn't go top ratings wif the fans, maybe ppl was afraid that the GC would also be a flopp and went over to the PS...hey the first one was good, ain't the 2nd one supposed to be better?
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Author: pirachu
Age: 18
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 7:50pm
Mood: Owasup! I think the playstation 2 did good because it offered something else... dvd playback, backwards combatibility with all your playstation accesories (conotrollers, memory cards, multi tap, etc).
The gamecube is good... but I don't really know what to say about it.
Its all in the hands of the fans of each system... like millions of people love squaresoft and they are producing games for ps2... so millions of people went towards it.
but I don't really know.
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 8:20pm
Mood: H to the OANG MyBalogna>> If the PS3 sucks, I won't buy it. Nobody said I'm following Sony.. I just buy what's best.
I know I'm stating the obvious, but it really depends on a combination of both hardware AND software. The DC had really good games, but it doesn't even compare to the GCN, PS2 and XBox in terms of power. Technoligically, they got muscled out. That's why Sega is out of the video game hardware race. Not because of your silly excuse about people jumping on the bandwagon.
There's a reason why people are jumping on the Sony bandwagon. Quality correlates to popularity. If people feel that Sony's PS2 beats the competition in quality, then they will buy it. If the Dreamcast was truly as good or better than the PS2, then the DC would be the "cool thing to buy". Unfortunately for Sega, it isn't.
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 8:23pm
Mood: H to the OANG BTW, I have faith in the PS2. That's totally different than having faith in Sony. I don't give a shit about Sony. They're definitely on a roll, but I'm not ready to place my bets on the PS3 being just as big of a hit as PSX and PS2. At the time being, the PS2 is beating down the competition.
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Author: RoamDog
Age: Priv
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 8:28pm
Mood: S-M-R-T it's not beating down the competition.
just maybe slightly ahead of the GC for now.
and xbox is already laying dead in the mud.
it reminds me of ......sega saturn.
LOL
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Tue Sep. 10, 2002
Time: 9:40am
Mood: meh... slightly ahead? The ps2 is still far ahead of the GC in terms of sales from what I've heard.
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Author: AsIaN_FeaR
Age: 14
Date: Tue Sep. 10, 2002
Time: 4:03pm
Mood: u yes PS2 sold 3 times of GC. lol next generation PS3 will beat out the completion (sony is getting a year head start before nintendo again from what i heard of)
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Author: KenjutsuB0i
Age: 18
Date: Tue Sep. 10, 2002
Time: 6:50pm
Mood: ^^ i hope sony crashes and burns with this off the wall ps3 concept..
its funny how people constantly complain about companies not being original or experimenting and stuff, but as soon as they do people say its a stupid idea
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Thu Sep. 12, 2002
Time: 11:13pm
Mood: ach! haha , Socom.. are half of those games out yet? Sony has recieved more credit than it desrved for alot of the half assed crap they published before quality revealed its wonderful head over the PS2 horizon..
Kenjutsu , I give them praise for experimenting, too bad they are basically throwing their lead out of the widow with a concept like this.. I rolled my eyes the exact same way when sega saud they would incorperate DC technology in to dvd playes.. what are they thinking?
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Thu Sep. 12, 2002
Time: 11:18pm
Mood: H to the OANG "devijin, Sales have EVERYTHING to do with fanboys and the "general public" Jumping on that damn bandwagon.. hrdware? psshaw, we saw how psx out did a system souble its bit [power (i know that the bits do not mean shit, altho that is waht the public sees)
look at the launcehs, look at the quality dreamcast had out on its launch, (soul calibur, sonic nfl2k etc etc)
look what sony had for iyts ps2 (tekken, fantavision, thats about it)
now look at the sales, i think you are mistaken deviljion, if it were not for the dc units at blockbusters and EB's people would have not even heard of it..
zRemember the neo geo pocket vs GB color? same crap, NGP was far superios but gb had more of a fan base,
hardware means nothing, its who buys it and how many buy it that counts
sorry im drunk "
That is pure bullshit. You're saying people buy Sony's PSX and PS2 because they're selling like mad. Well, how are they selling like mad in the first place?? Explanation??
Hardware means a hell of a lot more than "nothing". It's the software that counts the most though. Thats why Sony's doing so well. The way I see it, you're making up an excuse for Sony's success.
"i hope sony crashes and burns with this off the wall ps3 concept.. i am not a fanboy of any type, i only wish for good ORIGINAL titles to prosper and it seems sony is as money hungy as it gets , and does not give 2 shits about quality titles.. go nintendo! go sega!""
Here's proof of your bias. First of all, EVERY COMPANY IS MONEY HUNGRY!!!! The purpose of business (regardless of what they're selling) is to make money. Labelling Sony as "money hungry" and implying that Nintendo and Sega are NOT money hungry, is an example of pure bias. If Sony didn't give 2 shits about quality, they wouldn't be on top right now. Besides, it's not like Sony makes all of the games for the PS2... I'm not gonna say "go Sony" because I don't care about Sony. I don't care about the PS3, and I won't care until it's on the market. Again, if I buy a console, I'll buy whichever one is the best. There's no anti-[company name] coming from me.
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Author: Fritz
Age: 11
Date: Thu Sep. 12, 2002
Time: 11:42pm
Mood: F to the ritz I like dreamcast.. cause i'm a cheap fuck!
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 2:03am
Mood: ach! You know i see this arguement as a large misyunderstanding and if we got things sorted out i am sure alot of the things said are semi compatible..
Where did i say hardware makes NO difference..
Sales of PS1 were largely to do with Sonys quick marketing strategy, low pricepoint and HARDWARE there you go, that got them out of the door and off to a great head start. Their immediete success was due to largely circumstatial means.. I mean Nintendo a huge player in the 16bit market and the Largest player in the handheld market, played their cards wrong (and for the most part has ever since in my opinion) the N64 was not released until around christmas 96 i believe, also it had major software problems.. 3 good games in 5 months haha
Sega was prompt to release a super 2d console but had to rush the saturn together within a years time , after hearing of sonys 3d powerhouse.. Sony did well at the start and are contiuing to
Yes i say that about PS2... How can you not see this? A year before playstation 2 was released we had a brand new stste of the art low priced system, but your AVERAGE JOE said "lets wait for PS2 because of some flashy FMV he saw for it, and Sonys word that it was 10 billion times better than anything.. (As you can see the specifications have been Extremely dummied down from the originals to what the system can actually do) It was the HYPE , and still is..
Hype exists everywhere, with everything.. If it is said to be good people want it.. if there is madden for it, people want it.. not because its a good game, because its madden..
And i own a PS2, I have played through the "Greats" for the system and trust me, there arent very many.. it is too bad that games no longer make the system, the system makes the games
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 2:09am
Mood: ach! Ps deviljin, in what SONY titles have you seen quality.. wait does sony even make titles? i think i can count them all on one hand, lets see gran turismo, legend of dragoon..
Yes i said sony was money hungry, although where did i say everyone else wasnt?
I get a laugh out of people bashing Bill Gates and the XBox for being a machine for corperate whores..
haha
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 7:51am
Mood: myblongna Half of Nintendo's "Killer" lineup isn't out either now is it. Ps2 has lots more. Those are the ones "I" like.
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 7:56am
Mood: meh... Mybalogna>> Reading the other thing
"in what SONY titles have you seen quality" sony just made the hardware, no one ever said that "Sony" was a game developer the calibur of nintendo. But why would they need to be when they have companies like Square, Konami, Capcom, Namco, EA, etc backing them up. Now if you were saying that Sony themselves don't have as many good titles as Nintendo I'd have to agree. But don't ignore the fact that the PS2 itself has more quality games right now than any other system that is out in the market today. At least from my personal experience and enjoyment of the games. I own both a ps2 and gamecube and I've said many times, in my OPINION, I prefer my ps2. Not because of Sony's marketing strategy or its popularity, but because I simply have more fun with it.
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 8:52am
Mood: asdf "Where did i say hardware makes NO difference.."
Up there! You said: "hardware means nothing"
"Yes i said sony was money hungry, although where did i say everyone else wasnt?"
Then why did you bring it up in the first place. If all companies are money hungry, why did you only mention Sony?? You obviously have a dislike for Sony so your opinion here's already biased.
Anyways, you're saying that people are buying PS2 because of hype. Has it occurred to you that maybe that's just an excuse in Sony's romp over Nintendo and your beloved Sega??? I honestly think that the PS2 is leading the competition in terms of quality, quantity AND sales, at the time being. If you're implying that Sony's success is ONLY due to hype and good marketing and NOT because they're setting the standard in quality, then just say it straight out.
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Author: Fritz
Age: 11
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 9:01am
Mood: 13 so ya... the dreamcast ...... *whispers* its thinking
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 9:04am
Mood: meh... Those commercials were classic.
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Author: Ithmatic
Age: 22
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 2:02pm
Mood: Tripe. Widgaradooni babbaloo!
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 2:21am
Mood: ach! not only due to hype, it is just unfortunate that some more original better titles and hardware were overlook as much as they were , when the giant loom of the "Much anticipated killer App!, ps2" was on its way..
it is no use arguing with you about this.. do not turn everything so black and white either..
I give sony kudos for brainwashing most of the GENERAL public in to thinking their system was god even before it his shelves, that is a good marketing scheme.. even if it is spreading mostly false propaganda...
Socom there is no need for mindless criticism when you dont have anything intelligent or worthwhile to say
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 3:23am
Mood: H to the OANG Holy fanboy, batman...
PS2 was rated higher than its competition by the pros. Their opinion isn't infinitely credible, but they support that PS2's success isn't primarily about "brainwashing" etc... It's about being the console that brings the top quality games to their customers.
Mybalogna, you're obviously really biased when it comes to this. You're talking like PS2 is some evil empire in the video gaming world, just because you're a Sega fan.
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 3:35am
Mood: ach! haha, i own both i have played what both have to offer, and again i have explained my reasoning.. when a fan of something other than the system you enjoy bashes it you label him/her a fanboy.. i am anything but,
trust me i have been playing these fuckers since i was born, i have played all that matters etc etc i am sure u have heard it all before although my opinion is anything but one sided..
if you owned a DCduring the time ps2 was going to be launched you would know..
and even if you did, you sound like the kind of person who took it out of the box popped in soul calibuir and said this isnt sony.. *switch..*
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Author: RoamDog
Age: Priv
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 11:56am
Mood: S-M-R-T i still like gamecube better then ps2 or dreamcast.
but PC beats all....ALWAYS!
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 12:02pm
Mood: H to the OANG "If it depended on the game quality dreamcast would be running the show."
"No matter how many orginal titles the dc had on it, no matter how many times it out did the competition, psx and ps2 stil won because of its fan base of zombies."
"i think i got your point, although your faith in sony is a bit overboard. Have you seen their plans for PS3? Aaahahahaha, idiots "
"i hope sony crashes and burns with this off the wall ps3 concept.. i am not a fanboy of any type, i only wish for good ORIGINAL titles to prosper and it seems sony is as money hungy as it gets , and does not give 2 shits about quality titles.. go nintendo! go sega!"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this shows a dislike towards Sony and a bias towards Sega. Sure the Dreamcast was good but they made a mistake:
The Saturn, PSX, and N64 were of the same generation, in terms of power, and the time it was released. The PS2, X-Box and GCN are of the same generation as well. Where does DC lie?? In the middle by itself. When it was released, many gamers felt that they didn't need to buy it because they recently bought the PSX/N64 a year or two prior to the release of the DC. Even more significantly, about a year later, people were anticipating the PS2 and the GCN, again to the disadvantage of Sega. As good as the system was, Sega didn't reallyprovide a good enough reason to buy it. Why buy it when it will be massively outdated in the near future??
"and even if you did, you sound like the kind of person who took it out of the box popped in soul calibuir and said this isnt sony.. *switch..*"
Again, I don't care about Sony. If I felt like the X-Box was the best, I'd buy it. If I felt like the Gamecube was the best, I'd buy it. The PS2 just happens to be the best system to buy right now. If Sega decided to get back into making consoles, and then release a console in the next generation that I felt was better than the PS3 and the rest of the competition, I would buy that before I'd buy the rest cuz I don't give a shit who makes it.
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Author: bwong
Age: 19
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 12:57pm
Mood: BEATLEJUICE i feel the xbox will last due to its support, ps2 will survie due to popularity, and gamecube will last cause of its titles
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 2:24pm
Mood: meh... Hey I am only correcting your obvious convoluted view of Sony. You said before that the PS2 has no killer aps for it. So I listed some. You argue that half arent' released, I come back with it's the same with nintendo. Then you argue that sony has no quality titles therefore making the ps2 crappy. I come back saying that not just Sony is making games for the ps2 and I list the various game companies that support it. Correct me if I'm wrong but an effective argument should be backed up by examples and concrete evidense. Both of which I have provided.
"Socom there is no need for mindless criticism when you dont have anything intelligent or worthwhile to say "
I couldn't agree more, but how intelligent is an argument like this?
"I give sony kudos for brainwashing most of the GENERAL public in to thinking their system was god even before it his shelves."
How exactly did this brainwashing occur? Sony merely said what their system could do followed by demonstrations of the hardware in action. Something ALL game companies do when their hardware is finished and ready. Are you telling me that Nintendo and microsoft didn't try to hype their machines before they were released so that sales would bear fruit?
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 2:36pm
Mood: H to the OANG Why the hell don't people just screw whatever loyalties they have with whatever company?? I don't see why people basically back only one company and then kiss its ass and worship it.
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 3:16pm
Mood: meh... Deviljin>> I like boith.
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 1:41am
Mood: ach! Socom, by telling the public that the ps2 hardware maximum capabilities they are 10x than that said.. its like things like the newspaper, big big news is printed fullpage even it is not 100% trueand thousand o people hear about it, if there was a mistke in the article that is added 2 weeks later in the useless section near the classifieds..
deviljin, what you are saying has a point although i think you arent iving me good arguements.. it is a buiness industry too, rival companies each reaching for the throat of he other, and yes taking alernate manuvers to reach the top.
So they cheated, so life isnt fair, but it got them where they are today and in #1.. But deviljin what yoiu fail to realze what my arguement actually means, that is why nobody is proving anything with this topic
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 1:44am
Mood: ach! haha i just read over that, dont mind the horrible grammar errors, after a night devoted to getting sloshed even typing is tough..
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 10:37am
Mood: meh... Mybalogna>> I don't recall Sony ever saying the ps2 was capable of doing things 10x the power that the processor is capable of. Need I remind you that Microsoft and Nintendo said the same thing when their systems were being developed? They bothed claimed to be "ps2 killers" or "way more advanced than anything out in the market" which the ps2 was.
Also, how did Sony cheat? By providing a great product that people love? If the ps2 was truly crappy as you say, why aren't people massing to the stores to return their sustems or going to the pawnshops to get some cash? Because people are satisfied with what they have.
All you've done is give your opinion on things with no concrete evidence.
So sony is in the lead right now. Does it really matter? As long as there is competition no one really can say which system will turn out on top. But as long as each person is happy with what they have what is the point of bashing the other guy?
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 11:21am
Mood: H to the OANG Mybalogna>> Not giving a good argument?? What about you?? You're saying that Sony CHEATED?? HAHAHAHAHA!!
I get it... If Sega is on top of the video game market, that makes them the best. If Sony is on top of the video game market, they only got there because they "cheated".
Mybalogna, regardless of how Sony played their cards and no matter how good their games were, you would have made that "cheated" excuse to explain Sega's ass kicking. Sony isn't on top because of advertising strategies or some shit like that. Sony is beating down the competition by offering exactly what the majority of gamers want.
You have absolutely no support for your argument. Give me some good evidence indicating how Sony's games aren't all that good and that they "cheated" to get on top of the video game industry. By the way, the latest yearly review on consoles say that the PS2 is the best console to buy at the time being AND with future considerations... They offer tons of good games for each genre and age group. The last system to do that successfully was the Dreamcast, but their console is significantly weaker than the PS2. Basically, the PS2 is everything the Dreamcast is, times 10 of the DC's power, plus internet capability, DVD playback, and more big-name companies. If you like the Dreamcast so much, you should like the PS2 too...oh wait I forgot, you hate Sony because they ravaged Sega....
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 11:39am
Mood: H to the OANG And mybalogna, you ARE one sided. You're making up all this bullshit about Sony cheating, and brainwashing people... Seriously, if you were NOT one sided, you'd be able to accept that Sony is offering what the consumers want, and that's why they're on top. If you weren't a fanboy, you wouldn't have the need to make some sorry excuse as to why Sega got their asses kicked and Nintendo isn't number one anymore. You're even ALREADY bashing the PS3, and it's not even out yet... There's PROOF that you have a bias against Sony. Okay, seriously, if the PS3 turns out to be the best thing that ever happened to video games, you would STILL bash it and put it down, simply because you are a fanboy. As for myself, if the next Nintendo or Sega (despite not making consoles anymore) system turns out to be the best thing that ever happened to video games, I would say "Fuck Sony" and go and buy that system instead, because I'm not a fanboy and therefore I have no need to follow Sony. Feel free to argue this if you want to... Can you honestly say that you can screw Sega/Nintendo and go Sony if the PS3 turns out to be really good?? Or would you do the same thing you're doing now and bash it, making sorry excuses for why people are buying it and why reviewers are rating it higher than any other consoles.
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:31pm
Mood: No Respects my buddy has ps2, dcast, and just bought an xbox. ps2 owns, xbox is great system (the controller aint that bad!) but the games backing ps2 are just too good. as for n64, the only fun game is SSB games, and goldeneye (which sucks anyway!).
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:32pm
Mood: No Respects ...and seeing as how none of us watch TV, or read the paper, i dont see how sony can be brainwashing us =D
face it, the games are better....which is more important than xbox being a better machine
n64 = non-factor.
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Author: bwong
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:32pm
Mood: BEATTLEJUICE im on a mission to buy all 3
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:35pm
Mood: No Respects murray has every system except xbox, and my buddy mike has every sys cept n64...nobody touches n64, nobody plays dc anymore cept for marvel (ps controller is the best for fighting games, by far). the only games we play on xbox are halo occasionally and that racing game thats on the tip of my tongue...you know, with the "kudos" points for slides, and pylon quests and stuff, thats a great game.
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:38pm
Mood: No Respects hm i just read Mybalogna's post....
sony's tactics are the same as the other companies...
but marketing strats aside, sony is superior right now...its the second best game system but has the best games......you really dont have a point, mybalogna...regardless of how you believe sony is "cheating", its superior games are putting it in the lead right now.
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:41pm
Mood: No Respects i just finished reading, and i have to say, Mybalogna, you sound like someone who got their dick caught in your ps2 while loading a porn dvd, and is now extremely bitter to sony. do you blindly prefer the other systems because they do not have the ability to castrate you?
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:47pm
Mood: No Respects and btw, id that say getting squaresoft for 6 (or is it 7?) final fantasy titles (not to mention other titles, like CT2) has been the greatest achievement of any of the big three for the past few years. as i recall, when squaresoft first left nintendo, there were quite a few nuthuggers moaning about how 3d would ruin FF games.
go ps2, the balogna-castrating machine!
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 3:33pm
Mood: H to the OANG Mirage>> Exactly. That's what I'm trying to tell this guy.
Why be bitter towards Sony for finishing Sega off and beating Nintendo around like a rag doll, why don't you just fuck it all and move on. Unglue those lips from Sega's penis before you joke, and face the truth. Sony has a stranglehold on the video game market and Sega is reduced to Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft's table scraps.
Again, "Why the hell don't people just screw whatever loyalties they have with whatever company?? I don't see why people basically back only one company and then kiss its ass and worship it." PS2 is the best right now and will likely keep that position until the next generation comes along, and no matter how many fanboy excuses you make, you can't change that.
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 6:38pm
Mood: ach! It is not because i feel i need to be mad at sony for their tactics, but when i company like sega concentrates on producing and developing original titles while those sony publishes for make re-hashed crap.. who should i vouch for? I would rather have big budget original games like shenmue and jet set radio then have a brand new twisted metal every year.
deviljin i wonder how credible your opinions are.. Have you done the rounds with the systems? have you ever played a Good game? i doubt it, inform me if otherwise
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 8, 2002
Time: 10:41pm
Mood: H to the OANG EtownPaki>>
"Id say gamecube is still strong, but i dont like how they are releasing 2d capcom fighters, when the controller is so lacking. But games like zelda will be cool.
PS2 will become much better, with additions of new RPGs and online. But ps2 releases more bad games than good"
First of all, the GC controller is crap for 2D fighters, but that doesn't mean shit.
Second of all, the PS2 DOES release more bad games than good, but that doesn't mean shit either.
The only things that matter are the GOOD games that come out for each system. I mean, if CvS2 sucks for the GC, don't buy it. If there are shitty games for the PS2, only buy the good ones. Who cares about the shitty games. Just look at the good ones.
Azn_PureChink>> You're 14. Shouldn't you be worshipping childish games??
BTW, I think that Sony will decimate the competition this time around, even more than they did last generation.
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Author: AsIaN_FeaR
Age: 14
Date: Sun Sep. 8, 2002
Time: 10:43pm
Mood: u http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/08/28/online.gaming
Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 1:22am
Mood: ach!
What deviljin said is very true.. look at what the general public thinks..
PS2 is the cool thing to own, no matter how good or bad the games are for it, or any other system for that matter.
If it depended on the game quality dreamcast would be running the show.
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Author: ekjl
Age: 21
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 7:48am
Mood: adsf AsIaN_FeaR: Don't you know that you never trust those kind of sources. I've heard lots of bullshit coming out of CNN the past year and that just lost their credibility as a news source for gaming. If you want a more accurate look on the situation about gaming, get magazines like EGM, or sites like Videogames.com.
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 9:15am
Mood: fdsfaf Mybalogna>> Umm...no you missed my point.
If a system has 90 bad games and 10 good games, it's better than a system that has 20 bad games and 5 good games, even though only 1/10 of its games are worth playing.
As for the DC, it's outdated in terms of technology. That's why it's gone...
The reason why PS2 is beating the competition is because it is the most reliable system out there. It took over the household name of video games from Nintendo.
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 11:49am
Mood: ach! Ah reliable to last it is Although my entire stement was not to agree with yours, zEverybody wants a PS2, Alot of people desire it because it is the "cool" thing to have. Many of your average console buyers are kids who see a game like GTA3 and decide this is the system to get regardless of what else is out there.. All of their friends have it too, so its only natural that they get it.
The Dc was overshadowed by the hype for Sonys mystery box during its lifespan, nobody even thought twice about a dreamcast because it just "wasnt cool" No matter how many orginal titles the dc had on it, no matter how many times it out did the competition, psx and ps2 stil won because of its fan base of zombies. Thats why it failed.
It is all about corperate image, if it were about power of the system wouldn xbox be in first place right now?
'i think i got your point, although your faith in sony is a bit overboard. Have you seen their plans for PS3? Aaahahahaha, idiots
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Author: RoamDog
Age: Priv
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 3:30pm
Mood: S-M-R-T "for games like capcom vs. snk2..... u think the gamecube controller would be good?"
I don't play CvS or MvC.
and people say the controllers are only crap for those games cuz everyone is used to playing them in the arcade for 5 years now.
if you were used to a gamecube controller you'd say other controllers sucked for it.
but whatever, the last 10 games I have played for console mostly sucked.
the only good games I have played for console lately were gamecube games.
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Author: Nsx_Boy
Age: 14
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 6:18pm
Mood: --> hmm...also i think the 64 from nintendo didn't go top ratings wif the fans, maybe ppl was afraid that the GC would also be a flopp and went over to the PS...hey the first one was good, ain't the 2nd one supposed to be better?
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Author: pirachu
Age: 18
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 7:50pm
Mood: Owasup! I think the playstation 2 did good because it offered something else... dvd playback, backwards combatibility with all your playstation accesories (conotrollers, memory cards, multi tap, etc).
The gamecube is good... but I don't really know what to say about it.
Its all in the hands of the fans of each system... like millions of people love squaresoft and they are producing games for ps2... so millions of people went towards it.
but I don't really know.
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 8:20pm
Mood: H to the OANG MyBalogna>> If the PS3 sucks, I won't buy it. Nobody said I'm following Sony.. I just buy what's best.
I know I'm stating the obvious, but it really depends on a combination of both hardware AND software. The DC had really good games, but it doesn't even compare to the GCN, PS2 and XBox in terms of power. Technoligically, they got muscled out. That's why Sega is out of the video game hardware race. Not because of your silly excuse about people jumping on the bandwagon.
There's a reason why people are jumping on the Sony bandwagon. Quality correlates to popularity. If people feel that Sony's PS2 beats the competition in quality, then they will buy it. If the Dreamcast was truly as good or better than the PS2, then the DC would be the "cool thing to buy". Unfortunately for Sega, it isn't.
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 8:23pm
Mood: H to the OANG BTW, I have faith in the PS2. That's totally different than having faith in Sony. I don't give a shit about Sony. They're definitely on a roll, but I'm not ready to place my bets on the PS3 being just as big of a hit as PSX and PS2. At the time being, the PS2 is beating down the competition.
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Author: RoamDog
Age: Priv
Date: Mon Sep. 9, 2002
Time: 8:28pm
Mood: S-M-R-T it's not beating down the competition.
just maybe slightly ahead of the GC for now.
and xbox is already laying dead in the mud.
it reminds me of ......sega saturn.
LOL
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Tue Sep. 10, 2002
Time: 9:40am
Mood: meh... slightly ahead? The ps2 is still far ahead of the GC in terms of sales from what I've heard.
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Author: AsIaN_FeaR
Age: 14
Date: Tue Sep. 10, 2002
Time: 4:03pm
Mood: u yes PS2 sold 3 times of GC. lol next generation PS3 will beat out the completion (sony is getting a year head start before nintendo again from what i heard of)
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Author: KenjutsuB0i
Age: 18
Date: Tue Sep. 10, 2002
Time: 6:50pm
Mood: ^^ i hope sony crashes and burns with this off the wall ps3 concept..
its funny how people constantly complain about companies not being original or experimenting and stuff, but as soon as they do people say its a stupid idea
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Thu Sep. 12, 2002
Time: 11:13pm
Mood: ach! haha , Socom.. are half of those games out yet? Sony has recieved more credit than it desrved for alot of the half assed crap they published before quality revealed its wonderful head over the PS2 horizon..
Kenjutsu , I give them praise for experimenting, too bad they are basically throwing their lead out of the widow with a concept like this.. I rolled my eyes the exact same way when sega saud they would incorperate DC technology in to dvd playes.. what are they thinking?
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Thu Sep. 12, 2002
Time: 11:18pm
Mood: H to the OANG "devijin, Sales have EVERYTHING to do with fanboys and the "general public" Jumping on that damn bandwagon.. hrdware? psshaw, we saw how psx out did a system souble its bit [power (i know that the bits do not mean shit, altho that is waht the public sees)
look at the launcehs, look at the quality dreamcast had out on its launch, (soul calibur, sonic nfl2k etc etc)
look what sony had for iyts ps2 (tekken, fantavision, thats about it)
now look at the sales, i think you are mistaken deviljion, if it were not for the dc units at blockbusters and EB's people would have not even heard of it..
zRemember the neo geo pocket vs GB color? same crap, NGP was far superios but gb had more of a fan base,
hardware means nothing, its who buys it and how many buy it that counts
sorry im drunk "
That is pure bullshit. You're saying people buy Sony's PSX and PS2 because they're selling like mad. Well, how are they selling like mad in the first place?? Explanation??
Hardware means a hell of a lot more than "nothing". It's the software that counts the most though. Thats why Sony's doing so well. The way I see it, you're making up an excuse for Sony's success.
"i hope sony crashes and burns with this off the wall ps3 concept.. i am not a fanboy of any type, i only wish for good ORIGINAL titles to prosper and it seems sony is as money hungy as it gets , and does not give 2 shits about quality titles.. go nintendo! go sega!""
Here's proof of your bias. First of all, EVERY COMPANY IS MONEY HUNGRY!!!! The purpose of business (regardless of what they're selling) is to make money. Labelling Sony as "money hungry" and implying that Nintendo and Sega are NOT money hungry, is an example of pure bias. If Sony didn't give 2 shits about quality, they wouldn't be on top right now. Besides, it's not like Sony makes all of the games for the PS2... I'm not gonna say "go Sony" because I don't care about Sony. I don't care about the PS3, and I won't care until it's on the market. Again, if I buy a console, I'll buy whichever one is the best. There's no anti-[company name] coming from me.
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Author: Fritz
Age: 11
Date: Thu Sep. 12, 2002
Time: 11:42pm
Mood: F to the ritz I like dreamcast.. cause i'm a cheap fuck!
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 2:03am
Mood: ach! You know i see this arguement as a large misyunderstanding and if we got things sorted out i am sure alot of the things said are semi compatible..
Where did i say hardware makes NO difference..
Sales of PS1 were largely to do with Sonys quick marketing strategy, low pricepoint and HARDWARE there you go, that got them out of the door and off to a great head start. Their immediete success was due to largely circumstatial means.. I mean Nintendo a huge player in the 16bit market and the Largest player in the handheld market, played their cards wrong (and for the most part has ever since in my opinion) the N64 was not released until around christmas 96 i believe, also it had major software problems.. 3 good games in 5 months haha
Sega was prompt to release a super 2d console but had to rush the saturn together within a years time , after hearing of sonys 3d powerhouse.. Sony did well at the start and are contiuing to
Yes i say that about PS2... How can you not see this? A year before playstation 2 was released we had a brand new stste of the art low priced system, but your AVERAGE JOE said "lets wait for PS2 because of some flashy FMV he saw for it, and Sonys word that it was 10 billion times better than anything.. (As you can see the specifications have been Extremely dummied down from the originals to what the system can actually do) It was the HYPE , and still is..
Hype exists everywhere, with everything.. If it is said to be good people want it.. if there is madden for it, people want it.. not because its a good game, because its madden..
And i own a PS2, I have played through the "Greats" for the system and trust me, there arent very many.. it is too bad that games no longer make the system, the system makes the games
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 2:09am
Mood: ach! Ps deviljin, in what SONY titles have you seen quality.. wait does sony even make titles? i think i can count them all on one hand, lets see gran turismo, legend of dragoon..
Yes i said sony was money hungry, although where did i say everyone else wasnt?
I get a laugh out of people bashing Bill Gates and the XBox for being a machine for corperate whores..
haha
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 7:51am
Mood: myblongna Half of Nintendo's "Killer" lineup isn't out either now is it. Ps2 has lots more. Those are the ones "I" like.
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 7:56am
Mood: meh... Mybalogna>> Reading the other thing
"in what SONY titles have you seen quality" sony just made the hardware, no one ever said that "Sony" was a game developer the calibur of nintendo. But why would they need to be when they have companies like Square, Konami, Capcom, Namco, EA, etc backing them up. Now if you were saying that Sony themselves don't have as many good titles as Nintendo I'd have to agree. But don't ignore the fact that the PS2 itself has more quality games right now than any other system that is out in the market today. At least from my personal experience and enjoyment of the games. I own both a ps2 and gamecube and I've said many times, in my OPINION, I prefer my ps2. Not because of Sony's marketing strategy or its popularity, but because I simply have more fun with it.
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 8:52am
Mood: asdf "Where did i say hardware makes NO difference.."
Up there! You said: "hardware means nothing"
"Yes i said sony was money hungry, although where did i say everyone else wasnt?"
Then why did you bring it up in the first place. If all companies are money hungry, why did you only mention Sony?? You obviously have a dislike for Sony so your opinion here's already biased.
Anyways, you're saying that people are buying PS2 because of hype. Has it occurred to you that maybe that's just an excuse in Sony's romp over Nintendo and your beloved Sega??? I honestly think that the PS2 is leading the competition in terms of quality, quantity AND sales, at the time being. If you're implying that Sony's success is ONLY due to hype and good marketing and NOT because they're setting the standard in quality, then just say it straight out.
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Author: Fritz
Age: 11
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 9:01am
Mood: 13 so ya... the dreamcast ...... *whispers* its thinking
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 9:04am
Mood: meh... Those commercials were classic.
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Author: Ithmatic
Age: 22
Date: Fri Sep. 13, 2002
Time: 2:02pm
Mood: Tripe. Widgaradooni babbaloo!
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 2:21am
Mood: ach! not only due to hype, it is just unfortunate that some more original better titles and hardware were overlook as much as they were , when the giant loom of the "Much anticipated killer App!, ps2" was on its way..
it is no use arguing with you about this.. do not turn everything so black and white either..
I give sony kudos for brainwashing most of the GENERAL public in to thinking their system was god even before it his shelves, that is a good marketing scheme.. even if it is spreading mostly false propaganda...
Socom there is no need for mindless criticism when you dont have anything intelligent or worthwhile to say
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 3:23am
Mood: H to the OANG Holy fanboy, batman...
PS2 was rated higher than its competition by the pros. Their opinion isn't infinitely credible, but they support that PS2's success isn't primarily about "brainwashing" etc... It's about being the console that brings the top quality games to their customers.
Mybalogna, you're obviously really biased when it comes to this. You're talking like PS2 is some evil empire in the video gaming world, just because you're a Sega fan.
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 3:35am
Mood: ach! haha, i own both i have played what both have to offer, and again i have explained my reasoning.. when a fan of something other than the system you enjoy bashes it you label him/her a fanboy.. i am anything but,
trust me i have been playing these fuckers since i was born, i have played all that matters etc etc i am sure u have heard it all before although my opinion is anything but one sided..
if you owned a DCduring the time ps2 was going to be launched you would know..
and even if you did, you sound like the kind of person who took it out of the box popped in soul calibuir and said this isnt sony.. *switch..*
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Author: RoamDog
Age: Priv
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 11:56am
Mood: S-M-R-T i still like gamecube better then ps2 or dreamcast.
but PC beats all....ALWAYS!
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 12:02pm
Mood: H to the OANG "If it depended on the game quality dreamcast would be running the show."
"No matter how many orginal titles the dc had on it, no matter how many times it out did the competition, psx and ps2 stil won because of its fan base of zombies."
"i think i got your point, although your faith in sony is a bit overboard. Have you seen their plans for PS3? Aaahahahaha, idiots "
"i hope sony crashes and burns with this off the wall ps3 concept.. i am not a fanboy of any type, i only wish for good ORIGINAL titles to prosper and it seems sony is as money hungy as it gets , and does not give 2 shits about quality titles.. go nintendo! go sega!"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this shows a dislike towards Sony and a bias towards Sega. Sure the Dreamcast was good but they made a mistake:
The Saturn, PSX, and N64 were of the same generation, in terms of power, and the time it was released. The PS2, X-Box and GCN are of the same generation as well. Where does DC lie?? In the middle by itself. When it was released, many gamers felt that they didn't need to buy it because they recently bought the PSX/N64 a year or two prior to the release of the DC. Even more significantly, about a year later, people were anticipating the PS2 and the GCN, again to the disadvantage of Sega. As good as the system was, Sega didn't reallyprovide a good enough reason to buy it. Why buy it when it will be massively outdated in the near future??
"and even if you did, you sound like the kind of person who took it out of the box popped in soul calibuir and said this isnt sony.. *switch..*"
Again, I don't care about Sony. If I felt like the X-Box was the best, I'd buy it. If I felt like the Gamecube was the best, I'd buy it. The PS2 just happens to be the best system to buy right now. If Sega decided to get back into making consoles, and then release a console in the next generation that I felt was better than the PS3 and the rest of the competition, I would buy that before I'd buy the rest cuz I don't give a shit who makes it.
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Author: bwong
Age: 19
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 12:57pm
Mood: BEATLEJUICE i feel the xbox will last due to its support, ps2 will survie due to popularity, and gamecube will last cause of its titles
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 2:24pm
Mood: meh... Hey I am only correcting your obvious convoluted view of Sony. You said before that the PS2 has no killer aps for it. So I listed some. You argue that half arent' released, I come back with it's the same with nintendo. Then you argue that sony has no quality titles therefore making the ps2 crappy. I come back saying that not just Sony is making games for the ps2 and I list the various game companies that support it. Correct me if I'm wrong but an effective argument should be backed up by examples and concrete evidense. Both of which I have provided.
"Socom there is no need for mindless criticism when you dont have anything intelligent or worthwhile to say "
I couldn't agree more, but how intelligent is an argument like this?
"I give sony kudos for brainwashing most of the GENERAL public in to thinking their system was god even before it his shelves."
How exactly did this brainwashing occur? Sony merely said what their system could do followed by demonstrations of the hardware in action. Something ALL game companies do when their hardware is finished and ready. Are you telling me that Nintendo and microsoft didn't try to hype their machines before they were released so that sales would bear fruit?
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 2:36pm
Mood: H to the OANG Why the hell don't people just screw whatever loyalties they have with whatever company?? I don't see why people basically back only one company and then kiss its ass and worship it.
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Sat Sep. 14, 2002
Time: 3:16pm
Mood: meh... Deviljin>> I like boith.
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 1:41am
Mood: ach! Socom, by telling the public that the ps2 hardware maximum capabilities they are 10x than that said.. its like things like the newspaper, big big news is printed fullpage even it is not 100% trueand thousand o people hear about it, if there was a mistke in the article that is added 2 weeks later in the useless section near the classifieds..
deviljin, what you are saying has a point although i think you arent iving me good arguements.. it is a buiness industry too, rival companies each reaching for the throat of he other, and yes taking alernate manuvers to reach the top.
So they cheated, so life isnt fair, but it got them where they are today and in #1.. But deviljin what yoiu fail to realze what my arguement actually means, that is why nobody is proving anything with this topic
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 1:44am
Mood: ach! haha i just read over that, dont mind the horrible grammar errors, after a night devoted to getting sloshed even typing is tough..
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Author: Socom
Age: Priv
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 10:37am
Mood: meh... Mybalogna>> I don't recall Sony ever saying the ps2 was capable of doing things 10x the power that the processor is capable of. Need I remind you that Microsoft and Nintendo said the same thing when their systems were being developed? They bothed claimed to be "ps2 killers" or "way more advanced than anything out in the market" which the ps2 was.
Also, how did Sony cheat? By providing a great product that people love? If the ps2 was truly crappy as you say, why aren't people massing to the stores to return their sustems or going to the pawnshops to get some cash? Because people are satisfied with what they have.
All you've done is give your opinion on things with no concrete evidence.
So sony is in the lead right now. Does it really matter? As long as there is competition no one really can say which system will turn out on top. But as long as each person is happy with what they have what is the point of bashing the other guy?
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 11:21am
Mood: H to the OANG Mybalogna>> Not giving a good argument?? What about you?? You're saying that Sony CHEATED?? HAHAHAHAHA!!
I get it... If Sega is on top of the video game market, that makes them the best. If Sony is on top of the video game market, they only got there because they "cheated".
Mybalogna, regardless of how Sony played their cards and no matter how good their games were, you would have made that "cheated" excuse to explain Sega's ass kicking. Sony isn't on top because of advertising strategies or some shit like that. Sony is beating down the competition by offering exactly what the majority of gamers want.
You have absolutely no support for your argument. Give me some good evidence indicating how Sony's games aren't all that good and that they "cheated" to get on top of the video game industry. By the way, the latest yearly review on consoles say that the PS2 is the best console to buy at the time being AND with future considerations... They offer tons of good games for each genre and age group. The last system to do that successfully was the Dreamcast, but their console is significantly weaker than the PS2. Basically, the PS2 is everything the Dreamcast is, times 10 of the DC's power, plus internet capability, DVD playback, and more big-name companies. If you like the Dreamcast so much, you should like the PS2 too...oh wait I forgot, you hate Sony because they ravaged Sega....
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 11:39am
Mood: H to the OANG And mybalogna, you ARE one sided. You're making up all this bullshit about Sony cheating, and brainwashing people... Seriously, if you were NOT one sided, you'd be able to accept that Sony is offering what the consumers want, and that's why they're on top. If you weren't a fanboy, you wouldn't have the need to make some sorry excuse as to why Sega got their asses kicked and Nintendo isn't number one anymore. You're even ALREADY bashing the PS3, and it's not even out yet... There's PROOF that you have a bias against Sony. Okay, seriously, if the PS3 turns out to be the best thing that ever happened to video games, you would STILL bash it and put it down, simply because you are a fanboy. As for myself, if the next Nintendo or Sega (despite not making consoles anymore) system turns out to be the best thing that ever happened to video games, I would say "Fuck Sony" and go and buy that system instead, because I'm not a fanboy and therefore I have no need to follow Sony. Feel free to argue this if you want to... Can you honestly say that you can screw Sega/Nintendo and go Sony if the PS3 turns out to be really good?? Or would you do the same thing you're doing now and bash it, making sorry excuses for why people are buying it and why reviewers are rating it higher than any other consoles.
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:31pm
Mood: No Respects my buddy has ps2, dcast, and just bought an xbox. ps2 owns, xbox is great system (the controller aint that bad!) but the games backing ps2 are just too good. as for n64, the only fun game is SSB games, and goldeneye (which sucks anyway!).
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:32pm
Mood: No Respects ...and seeing as how none of us watch TV, or read the paper, i dont see how sony can be brainwashing us =D
face it, the games are better....which is more important than xbox being a better machine
n64 = non-factor.
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Author: bwong
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:32pm
Mood: BEATTLEJUICE im on a mission to buy all 3
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:35pm
Mood: No Respects murray has every system except xbox, and my buddy mike has every sys cept n64...nobody touches n64, nobody plays dc anymore cept for marvel (ps controller is the best for fighting games, by far). the only games we play on xbox are halo occasionally and that racing game thats on the tip of my tongue...you know, with the "kudos" points for slides, and pylon quests and stuff, thats a great game.
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:38pm
Mood: No Respects hm i just read Mybalogna's post....
sony's tactics are the same as the other companies...
but marketing strats aside, sony is superior right now...its the second best game system but has the best games......you really dont have a point, mybalogna...regardless of how you believe sony is "cheating", its superior games are putting it in the lead right now.
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:41pm
Mood: No Respects i just finished reading, and i have to say, Mybalogna, you sound like someone who got their dick caught in your ps2 while loading a porn dvd, and is now extremely bitter to sony. do you blindly prefer the other systems because they do not have the ability to castrate you?
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Author: Mirage
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 2:47pm
Mood: No Respects and btw, id that say getting squaresoft for 6 (or is it 7?) final fantasy titles (not to mention other titles, like CT2) has been the greatest achievement of any of the big three for the past few years. as i recall, when squaresoft first left nintendo, there were quite a few nuthuggers moaning about how 3d would ruin FF games.
go ps2, the balogna-castrating machine!
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Author: DevilJin
Age: 19
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 3:33pm
Mood: H to the OANG Mirage>> Exactly. That's what I'm trying to tell this guy.
Why be bitter towards Sony for finishing Sega off and beating Nintendo around like a rag doll, why don't you just fuck it all and move on. Unglue those lips from Sega's penis before you joke, and face the truth. Sony has a stranglehold on the video game market and Sega is reduced to Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft's table scraps.
Again, "Why the hell don't people just screw whatever loyalties they have with whatever company?? I don't see why people basically back only one company and then kiss its ass and worship it." PS2 is the best right now and will likely keep that position until the next generation comes along, and no matter how many fanboy excuses you make, you can't change that.
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Author: Mybalogna
Age: 18
Date: Sun Sep. 15, 2002
Time: 6:38pm
Mood: ach! It is not because i feel i need to be mad at sony for their tactics, but when i company like sega concentrates on producing and developing original titles while those sony publishes for make re-hashed crap.. who should i vouch for? I would rather have big budget original games like shenmue and jet set radio then have a brand new twisted metal every year.
deviljin i wonder how credible your opinions are.. Have you done the rounds with the systems? have you ever played a Good game? i doubt it, inform me if otherwise